I'm tying to get a simple transaction in the sandbox running. Everything according to tutorials on the main site (Tezos Client and Sandbox)

The error is according to this and this solved by timestamping and bootstrapping it. So I made sure I did both too before starting the transactions: "Operation is outdated and may never be included in the chain" - I got the message it's bootstrapped and did tezos-client get timestamp. The proposed solution for Node synchronization doesn't work for me as I'm not doing it in the main network and the proposed page https://www.tzdutch.com/quicksync/ gives me an Error 404.

Any ideas on what am I supposed to do?

qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ wget https://github.com/serokell/tezos-packaging/releases/latest/download/tezos-client
--2020-05-11 09:53:47--  https://github.com/serokell/tezos-packaging/releases/latest/download/tezos-client
Resolving github.com (github.com)...
Connecting to github.com (github.com)||:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location: https://github.com/serokell/tezos-packaging/releases/download/202004061400/tezos-client [following]
--2020-05-11 09:53:47--  https://github.com/serokell/tezos-packaging/releases/download/202004061400/tezos-client
Reusing existing connection to github.com:443.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location: https://github-production-release-asset-2e65be.s3.amazonaws.com/219989982/22ff6d00-7816-11ea-990e-afdb996e9e7b?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAIWNJYAX4CSVEH53A%2F20200511%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20200511T095558Z&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Signature=11981313ba4e6f383f7b8fde04048df38c4f3b0a232d0ea24868d75b8c65e308&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&actor_id=0&repo_id=219989982&response-content-disposition=attachment%3B%20filename%3Dtezos-client&response-content-type=application%2Foctet-stream [following]
--2020-05-11 09:53:48--  https://github-production-release-asset-2e65be.s3.amazonaws.com/219989982/22ff6d00-7816-11ea-990e-afdb996e9e7b?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAIWNJYAX4CSVEH53A%2F20200511%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20200511T095558Z&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Signature=11981313ba4e6f383f7b8fde04048df38c4f3b0a232d0ea24868d75b8c65e308&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&actor_id=0&repo_id=219989982&response-content-disposition=attachment%3B%20filename%3Dtezos-client&response-content-type=application%2Foctet-stream
Resolving github-production-release-asset-2e65be.s3.amazonaws.com (github-production-release-asset-2e65be.s3.amazonaws.com)...
Connecting to github-production-release-asset-2e65be.s3.amazonaws.com (github-production-release-asset-2e65be.s3.amazonaws.com)||:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 12690180 (12M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: 'tezos-client'

tezos-client                                                        100%[===================================================================================================================================================================>]  12.10M  6.98MB/s    in 1.7s    

2020-05-11 09:53:50 (6.98 MB/s) - 'tezos-client' saved [12690180/12690180]

qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ chmod +x tezos-client
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ alias tezos-client=$PWD/tezos-client
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ docker run --rm --name my-sandbox --detach -p 20000:20000        registry.gitlab.com/tezos/flextesa:image-tutobox-run carthagebox start
Unable to find image 'registry.gitlab.com/tezos/flextesa:image-tutobox-run' locally
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Digest: sha256:a90beea07f3bfa16ef2febfb2340a8c51d14660b72ad7f415dab12ecd960b22a
Status: Downloaded newer image for registry.gitlab.com/tezos/flextesa:image-tutobox-run
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ docker ps
CONTAINER ID        IMAGE                                                  COMMAND                  CREATED             STATUS              PORTS                                                                      NAMES
ae27582cfcd6        registry.gitlab.com/tezos/flextesa:image-tutobox-run   "carthagebox start"      11 seconds ago      Up 10 seconds>20000/tcp                                                   my-sandbox
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ tezos-client config reset

   The node you are connecting to claims to be running in a
                    Tezos TEST SANDBOX.
      Do NOT use your fundraiser keys on this network.
  You should not see this message if you are not a developer.

qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$  export TEZOS_CLIENT_UNSAFE_DISABLE_DISCLAIMER=yes
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ tezos-client -A localhost -P 20000 bootstrapped
Current head: BMQyNEnZfJRo (timestamp: 2020-05-11T09:55:13-00:00, validation: 2020-05-11T09:55:16-00:00)
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ tezos-client -A localhost -P 20000 config update
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ tezos-client get timestamp
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ date
Mon May 11 09:56:00 UTC 2020
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ tezos-client import secret key alice unencrypted:edsk3QoqBuvdamxouPhin7swCvkQNgq4jP5KZPbwWNnwdZpSpJiEbq --force
Tezos address added: tz1VSUr8wwNhLAzempoch5d6hLRiTh8Cjcjb
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ tezos-client import secret key bob unencrypted:edsk3RFfvaFaxbHx8BMtEW1rKQcPtDML3LXjNqMNLCzC3wLC1bWbAt --force
Tezos address added: tz1aSkwEot3L2kmUvcoxzjMomb9mvBNuzFK6
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ docker run --rm registry.gitlab.com/tezos/flextesa:image-tutobox-run carthagebox info
Usable accounts:

- alice
  * edpkvGfYw3LyB1UcCahKQk4rF2tvbMUk8GFiTuMjL75uGXrpvKXhjn
  * tz1VSUr8wwNhLAzempoch5d6hLRiTh8Cjcjb
  * unencrypted:edsk3QoqBuvdamxouPhin7swCvkQNgq4jP5KZPbwWNnwdZpSpJiEbq
- bob
  * edpkurPsQ8eUApnLUJ9ZPDvu98E8VNj4KtJa1aZr16Cr5ow5VHKnz4
  * tz1aSkwEot3L2kmUvcoxzjMomb9mvBNuzFK6
  * unencrypted:edsk3RFfvaFaxbHx8BMtEW1rKQcPtDML3LXjNqMNLCzC3wLC1bWbAt

Root path (logs, chain data, etc.): /tmp/mini-box (inside container).
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ tezos-client get balance for "alice"
2000000 ꜩ
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ tezos-client get balance for "bob"
2000000 ꜩ
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ tezos-client transfer 100 from "alice" to "bob" -fee 0.00
Node is bootstrapped, ready for injecting operations.
Estimated gas: 10207 units (will add 100 for safety)
Estimated storage: no bytes added
Fatal error:
  The proposed fee (ꜩ0) are lower than the fee that baker expect by default (ꜩ0.001281).
   Use `--force-low-fee` to emit this operation anyway.
qoheletal@ubuntu1604:~/$ tezos-client transfer 100 from "alice" to "bob" -fee 0.00 --force-low-fee
Node is bootstrapped, ready for injecting operations.
Estimated gas: 10207 units (will add 100 for safety)
Estimated storage: no bytes added
Operation successfully injected in the node.
Operation hash is 'oogpJFBAMSKJsjAJc1Jrex6xPewyngRqcYoGqgdh6yAdMLQTpdw'
Waiting for the operation to be included...
Fatal error:
  The operation oogpJFBAMSKJsjAJc1Jrex6xPewyngRqcYoGqgdh6yAdMLQTpdw is outdated and may never be included in the chain.
  We recommand to use an external block explorer.

1 Answer 1


tezos-client transfer 100 from "alice" to "bob" -fee 0.00 --force-low-fee

This is normal, if you force 0 fee, none of the bakers picks up your operation and at some point it becomes "obsolete" (= the blocks it's based on is too old).

  • What would be the correct command?
    – Qohelet
    Commented May 12, 2020 at 5:11
  • Something like tezos-client transfer 100 from "alice" to "bob" ?
    – Seb Mondet
    Commented May 13, 2020 at 12:18
  • Remove "-fee 0.00" and "--force-low-fee". Just let the client use the defaults. The defaults are already extremely low for fee calculations.
    – utdrmac
    Commented May 16, 2020 at 15:37

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